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	<title>Comments on: Forgiveness is Not</title>
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		<title>By: kyle shoens</title>
		<link>http://www.noelheikkinen.com/2009/12/08/forgiveness-is-not/comment-page-1/#comment-180251</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle shoens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont be fooled. The words of Jesus have been totally twisted to meet the hypocritical demands western religious churchs. Jesus said,FORGIVE and pray for enemys, But he also said, You hypocrites, You put heavy burdens on men and lift not one finger to help them. There seems to be a continual opression in the churchs for victoms to conduct a ritual of humility to gain abusers/leaders approval. 
As if to say one can prove forgivenes after being abused, simply smile and resubmit to the abuse. NOT what Jesus asked us to do.  Shall we invite abusers to our homes? Shall we keep company with false bretheren? 
Acid test: If a theif breaks into your home would you not defend your children and even kill if necessary. And would you not press charges to police. 
Im am refering to churchs who allow every sort of abuse,carnality and even sin and have no Godly discerment to defend those poor victoms. 
So it is a game they play to keep the peace. Fasle peace.
Forgiveness does not mean resubmiting to abuse. 
Come out from among them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont be fooled. The words of Jesus have been totally twisted to meet the hypocritical demands western religious churchs. Jesus said,FORGIVE and pray for enemys, But he also said, You hypocrites, You put heavy burdens on men and lift not one finger to help them. There seems to be a continual opression in the churchs for victoms to conduct a ritual of humility to gain abusers/leaders approval.<br />
As if to say one can prove forgivenes after being abused, simply smile and resubmit to the abuse. NOT what Jesus asked us to do.  Shall we invite abusers to our homes? Shall we keep company with false bretheren?<br />
Acid test: If a theif breaks into your home would you not defend your children and even kill if necessary. And would you not press charges to police.<br />
Im am refering to churchs who allow every sort of abuse,carnality and even sin and have no Godly discerment to defend those poor victoms.<br />
So it is a game they play to keep the peace. Fasle peace.<br />
Forgiveness does not mean resubmiting to abuse.<br />
Come out from among them.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Christman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Christman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like your list here! - I just finished an action research project on Forgiveness in Communities - I found Dr. Worthingtons Frame (REACH) to be useful.  It is: Recall the hurt, Empathize with the offender, Altruism - give an altruistic gift, Commit to forgive, and Hold on to forgiveness.  I&#039;ve found each step is crucial for experiencing forgiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like your list here! &#8211; I just finished an action research project on Forgiveness in Communities &#8211; I found Dr. Worthingtons Frame (REACH) to be useful.  It is: Recall the hurt, Empathize with the offender, Altruism &#8211; give an altruistic gift, Commit to forgive, and Hold on to forgiveness.  I&#8217;ve found each step is crucial for experiencing forgiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: Krista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent some time thinking about this this week...When you asked about &#039;that thing&#039; nothing really came to mind...I felt really content about past &#039;big stuff&#039; that the Lord has brought me through...however as my week started to progress, it hit me. My struggle is in that &#039;other&#039; category. Forgiving those that cause the same offense over, and over, and over...even forgiving others for NOT being forgiving .
Anyway, I am thankful that the Lord has brought this to my attention and is working away at my heart.  I have spent many hours in the &#039;tortures&#039; of unforgiveness and I have no desire to return to those pains...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent some time thinking about this this week&#8230;When you asked about &#8216;that thing&#8217; nothing really came to mind&#8230;I felt really content about past &#8216;big stuff&#8217; that the Lord has brought me through&#8230;however as my week started to progress, it hit me. My struggle is in that &#8216;other&#8217; category. Forgiving those that cause the same offense over, and over, and over&#8230;even forgiving others for NOT being forgiving .<br />
Anyway, I am thankful that the Lord has brought this to my attention and is working away at my heart.  I have spent many hours in the &#8216;tortures&#8217; of unforgiveness and I have no desire to return to those pains&#8230;</p>
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